Looks like this post is part 4 of the Dublin elevator affair (or non-affair, that is). For my first 3 articles about ElevatorGate, see Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3.
It seems that there's a little more left in the coffeepot. It's getting kind of stale, but let's not let it go to waste, shall we? I'm going to put some more links and embedded videos below. I might be missing a few though, since I didn't think I'd be writing a part 4 and didn't bookmark everything consistently. Also, I left a few out intentionally in cases where, even though I otherwise agreed with their opinions, I disagreed too much with what they thought of Dawkins' comment. I still feel strongly about that comment (in favour of it), including the sarcastic tone he wrote it in, so what can I say? I don't want to link to anything that is, in my opinion, overly critical of him for it.
First though, before the links and videos, let me tell you about something - something very funny and ironic considering all the demonizing that's been done of Dawkins during this whole thing.
It's come out now, that BEFORE ELEVATORGATE, Richard Dawkins, arranged for his Foundation for Reason and Science, to pay for the childcare costs at all future TAM conferences. I found out about this today from ERV's article "Dawkins coup de grâce in Vegas". Now logically, since it's mostly women who take on child care responsibilities, providing free childcare might very well increase the attendance of women at atheist/skeptic events. It makes sense, plus it's a nice thing to do for attendees with children regardless of the attendee's gender.
So, here we have Dawkins doing something that will likely encourage female attendance. On the other hand, Rebecca Watson seems to think women are really being scared away because they might get sexist hate mail from misogynist atheists. Watson's conclusions about why there are less women at events than men have no real basis in much beyond some hate mail she's received from atheist men, and she says it happens when she talks about feminist issues. This is NOT necessarily representative of what happens to women in the atheist community. Perhaps it's representative of angry responses to discussions about feminist ideology itself, but not necessarily atheist discussions, not even ones where theocratic sexism is discussed. My guess is that the feminist topics she's referring to, are ones with talk of vague thought-crimes like 'sexualization', 'objectification', and other stuff which is NOT connected to atheism, not even the subtopics of theocratic laws/customs that are specifically against women . In my opinion, sexism is not running rampant in, or intrinsic to, the atheist community.
Personally, and yes, I'm adding my own 2 cents' worth of anecdotes here now too, I've found a huge amount LESS sexist behaviour/attitudes in the atheist communities than anywhere else I've seen (both on- and off-line). With equal rights and fairness at its core, no matter what your discriminated-against group is, humanism is a huge part of the atheist community and tends to be on your side by default. Not only that, but the theocracies that atheism stands up to, are the ones most responsible for the remaining sexism towards women in our world currently. Islam-based laws/cultures are the worst of those, as we all know, but even in the almost-secular 'western' countries, the remaining laws/culture that harm women are the christianity-based ones, especially where reproductive rights are concerned.
Makes me wonder who's doing more to improve the state of women in the world? Is it the atheist community (who do things like help out with the extra burden women often have in child care responsibilities, and who fight against the horrible regimes that mutilate, rape, kill, and enslave women as a matter of routine), or is it the feminist community (who complain about things like how oppressive those 'sexualizing' thoughts that men allegedly have even though they've accepted our "no's" as "no's" politely with no fuss)?
Anyways, here are those further links and videos for you.
IntegralMath/Justicar has written a number of further articles on it, but there are too many for me to link here, so you'll just have to go to his blog, and keep clicking "older posts" at the bottom until you've seen them all. Maybe I'd have had the energy to do it if I had had a coffee just before writing this post. :)
UnsolicitedComment wrote "The Reason I Feel Compelled to Comment (the Elevatroversy)"
At Radon's Blog, "A guy and a girl gets into an elevator.."
In Living Color has an update to their original article: "Elevator Guy Hits the Wires (updated)"
At Grey Lining, "The Watson Circus and Reflections On The Stanford Prison Experiment"
JesusFetusFajitaFishsticks gives us "A note to Miss Andry"
The Perplexed Observer writes about "Love In An Elevator With Richard Dawkins"
At Zenbuffy, there is "Much ado about…wait, what?"
David Styles writes, "An atheist feminist walks into a bar in Dublin..."
(If you want to go to the description/comment pages of the videos below, click their titles)
YES..."Elevatorgate" oh no's! by jakluk4
Elevators are so FUCKING awkward... by BobChaos23
This one has embedding disabled, so click here instead.
Things Elevator Guy DIDN'T Say by Al1981X
Elevatorgate - RK Watson is offered coffee by omgatheism
Going Doooown by AtheistAussie
Skepchick almost viciously sexually attacked in a elevator by a Black man.( Rebecca Watson ) by AmetReloads (my favourite YouTube troll who sometimes makes ones I like!)
Elevatorgate: Pervasive Misogyny and Rape Threats in Response to Feminism by valeriereified
Elevatorgate, the naked truth by chthonios